Jakarta EE and MicroProfile--Siblings, Cousins or Twins

An airhacks.fm conversation with Alasdair Nottingham (@nottycode) about: Jakarta EE, MicroProfile, package name changes, OpenLiberty implements MicroProfile API, uses SmallRye for reactive messaging, migration to smallrye is not trivial, reactive messaging comes with netty and vert.x assumptions, Jakarta EE and MicroProfile - merging or separating, a single dependency would be nice, three camps: Jakarta EE, MicroProfile vendors and the developers, Jakarta EE is more stable, MicroProfile is more innovative, MicroProfile is not an incubator, passionated discussions about SOAP, JAX-RPC is more popular, than JAX-WS, deprecation is not about removal, ConfigSource implementation does not support CDI, MicroProfile brings added value to Jakarta EE, MicroProfile and Jakarta EE can co-exist together, monoliths on kubernetes are valid use cases, poor vs. rich and thin vs. fat, xdoclet - the annotation predecessor, EJB 2 were not that bad, Alasdair Nottingham on twitter: @nottycode