Kodsnack 595 - Maintain curiosity, with Woody Zuill and Martin Lassbo

Fredrik paid a visit to Hogia and got the opportunity to talk to Woody Zuill and Martin Lassbo about mob programming, innovation, and keeping an open and curious mind. Mob programming is still new. Every time you say “that can’t work”, you tend to be proven wrong eventually. Try it, for a year or two. You can’t evaluate things after trying it for just an hour or two, some things take much longer. But do steer and adjust often. How frequently do you want to steer? Short iterations are valuable in that they give us more opportunities to steer work in a good direction. Standardization stifles innovation. Sometimes you do want it, but it depends on which space you’re in. We had a process, but we still succeeded! Where did the thought I have originate? All your thoughts started somewhere else. The things we most believe can hide our biggest mistakes. Thank you Cloudnet for sponsoring our VPS! Comments, questions or tips? We a re @kodsnack, @tobiashieta, @oferlund and @bjoreman on Twitter, have a page on Facebook and can be emailed at [email protected] if you want to write longer. We read everything we receive. If you enjoy Kodsnack we would love a review in iTunes! You can also support the podcast by buying us a coffee (or two!) through Ko-fi. Links Hogia Woody Zuill Martin Lassbo Mob programming Episode 218 (in Swedish) covers working in a mob in depth Other episodes with Woody Support us on Ko-fi! Øredev Woody’s Øredev talk 2018, Beginner’s mind Pair programming Turn up the good Cynefin - the decision framework you can never spell after hearing the word spoken Systems thinking - looking at systems as a whole, rather than in parts Kahnemann Thinking, fast and slow The drunkard’s walk by Leonard Mlodinow Rational irrationality Survivorship bias Confirmation bias * Desirability bias Max Planck Russell Ackoff Deming Chaos theory Feynman - you are the easiest person to fool Dave Farley Titles There’s always a lot to talk about The continuation My best thinking time The beginner’s mind We just work together Maintain curiosity Steer towards better Turn up the good Getting a thing we thought we wanted How frequently could we steer? We think we know what we want Not a systems thinker Talent plus luck A higher level than the work itself A little more talent and a lot more luck I’ll misquote it but I’m close Re-think the things we already believe Stay open-minded Something else could eat us A student of the biases Walk down a different path