013: Resolving the Methodology Wars with Mike Hannan

PMI Talent Triangle: Business Acumen (Strategic and Business Management) Welcome to the PMO Strategies Podcast + Blog, where PMO leaders become IMPACT Drivers! Today, we are talking with one of my dearest friends, Mike Hannan. Mike and I have known each other for a very, very long time. He truly was a friend first, and then we found out how much we had in common with respect to helping organizations make a huge impact with PMO, project management, portfolio management. And both of us have a really strong passion in this space and have worked together on a lot of different projects, initiatives, workshops. Mike is one of the founding creators of Project Management for Change and the Project Management Day of Service. He is also one of the advisors for my company, PMO Strategies. I've known him much longer than I've even had the company. So he's been an integral part in shaping the direction of my company, and what I'm all about, and how I'm delivering an impact for my community of IMPACT drivers. Mike is a leading edge-thinker and renegade, which I can totally vouch for, who believes that we all must do more to unleash our boundless potential and solve increasingly complex global issues. He envisions a community-centric, expert-guided, power-to-the-edge solution to most of these issues, which is super cool. For leaders and managers, this means open-platform approaches to innovating and sharing the most effective management practices. For consultants and other experts, this means that we are, too often, part of the problem, and need to be and do a much better job channeling our expertise in a way that delivers much greater impact. Laura Barnard: Can you tell us about what you are presenting in the PMO IMPACT Summit? Learn the best-kept secrets to creating a PMO that drives IMPACT.  Join us for the PMO IMPACT Summit.Register for FreeMike: My first presentation at the Summit is called Finding the North Star, A Universal Approach to Resolving the Methodology Wars. And the idea here is, the methodology... It's kind of like if you remember that old movie from the '80s, where there's a global thermonuclear war being launched by computers I think it's Matthew Broderick playing the lead role. And in the end, the computer played tic-tac-toe to a draw, a million times in a row, before learning that the only way to win is not to play. My point is don't play the methodology wars.  There's a better objective-driven approach that I'll be sharing at the Impact Summit, and I'll give everyone a little bit of a taste here. If you agree with my objectives, and you can lead yourself there, maybe you can come up with your own methodology following that objective-driven framework. Laura: Yes. Yes, that's great. Regardless of whatever the methodology is, getting out of this “us and them” mindset, and “you're wrong because that's the only way I can be right,” kind of thinking, and moving past that to the more important conversation that we should be having, and what that conversation looks like. Can you talk a little bit about your perspective on what that conversation should look like and what we should be doing anyway? Mike: I think the best way to introduce it is, if you're familiar at all with one of the major methodology wars that have been fought over the last 10 or 15 years, and that's the whole Agile versus Waterfall debate.If you think about that for a moment, it's all about, "Oh, my solution is better." And it's like, "Well, solution to what?" And so, too often, again, we've become so enamored of our own solutions, we forget to really talk about the problem. And while the problem may well be manifest in a patterned way, over and over, in lots of different organizations, and I do see that as a consultant, right? The reality is, every organization does have it a bit different. And if you just go forward with, "Hey, here's how it works, go take the training and apply it verbatim,